Maybe the solution is to enforce the immigration regs and penalize employers who hire undocumented people.

That would be the most effective way, which is why they don’t do it. They need that exploitation to make record profits for themselves and the shareholders.

Supreme court needs to overturn Ford v Dodge Brothers, the case that established that companies are only accountable to their shareholders, since a century later its clear that companies have an obligation to multiple parties and not just the shareholders. A company needs to comply with safety regulations to protect its employees to reduce the risk of having to pay for medical treatment as a result of an injury, paying employees better ensures a higher level of productivity in most cases which itself could be a benefit to the shareholders, companies need to make sure their costumers are happy so they need to offer a quality product that won’t poison them, etc. Plenty of examples of a company having responsibilities to others, in some cases we can argue this practice itself benefits the shareholders and yet we still see corporations believing this antiquated idea that was decided by an ancient court case from an entirely different era.

Then providing some protections for all workers, even the illegal ones, while also passing legislation that prohibits and punishes out-sourcing. Prior to Reagan most undocumented workers were just Mexicans who crossed the border to do seasonal work or a daily routine (maids) for localities near the border, then they’d go home at the end of the day or season. These jobs aren’t really competitive so let them do these things so long as they aren’t hurting people. H1B’s definitely steal good paying jobs, thats why we hear about Indian’s scamming their way into them with fake degrees and certifications. Highly competitive jobs shouldn’t be up for grabs like that.

All these call centers shipped to India that access are personal info is going to bite us in the ass sooner or later. Make it illegal for companies to do that and we’ll see jobs pour back into the USA. No reason not to, a large and stable middle class fuels economic growth.

It’s all trash. They should’ve just charged us to continue to maintain win 7. I’d have bought another license for an additional 10 years of regular updates.

Ah yes don’t fix the problem just let it continue to get worse and worse.

This is about as realistic as Americans doing their own farming after kicking out all the Mexicans.

Few differences here between tech jobs and farming. Tech jobs are the pinnacle of earners. Harvesting/Farming is one of the lowest form of income generation. Much easier to return those high skill jobs to Americans. Higher wages only hurt the CEO and upper management, wonder why they hired cheap slave labor to begin with.

Honestly the visa holders might be in better shape.

Most of these H1B jobs were coming from India, national notorious for fraud. In fact, lying and buying credentials is so ingrained in Indian culture when tech workers were tested on their skills something like 95% were found unsuitable for IT work. So I’m not super worried about losing that “talent” to India, we’ve got plenty of actual talent in the USA still. For years the younger generations were told to learning programming and get a CS degree. I bet we would find more than 5% of them are capable.

Also, talk to any American tech worker who has experienced out-sourcing to India or bringing in “talent” from India via H1B and you’ll hear some fun horror stories. Usually goes like this; manager wanted a bonus so he fires the team and sources Indians, usually because some consultant company contacted him with “they will work for $2 a day” promises. The replacements will either be totally incompetent from day one, sometimes they start off well until the workload is moved to new people (the people who start are actually skilled and over the course of weeks they move on to the next project and their replacements are totally incompetent.) After destroying the companies mainframe, database, software, website, etc the manager ends up firing them and begging the original team members to return to fix things.

I’ve heard and read dozens of such accounts. I experienced it myself. H1B’s tend to suck. At best they’re skilled but often suffer a noticeable language barrier and culture barrier.

There was no scheme to replace the American worker, that’s just how capitalism works.

There was, in fact, a scheme to replace the American worker with H1B. In fact, tech companies lobbied for H1B in the 1990’s then expanded it. In order to say they couldn’t find American workers they’d use all kinds of schemes; demanding levels of experience for insultingly low wages, running the ad in obscure news papers in the middle of bumfuck USA so no one would see them, etc. Oh, and then recruiting companies from India got involved.

If it’s literally cheaper to import labor, it’s not objectively the companies fault

I could literally replace every single American right now regardless of their age with someone for India. That replacement will cost less money. Why aren’t we replacing all Americans with Indians? Indian retiree’s get like $3 a month for social security, verse $1500 for Americans. Why don’t we replace all the American’s drawing SS with Indian elderly people and pocket the difference?

We have to find a practical balance between our society thriving and corporate greed.

Probably helps that everything post Windows 7 has sucked.

I favor incarceration with no bail.

This isn’t even the first time they’ve done corrupt shit like this. They got caught colluding with Apple and I think IBM to keep programmers salaries deflated by not hiring them when they left one of the other companies.

Thankfully they got in trouble for that, but not enough trouble. Bill Gates is a sick, sadistic creep (read up on his affair, connections to Epstein and how he tried to drug his wive with medications to treat an STI he gave her.)

Yup, it’s slave labor by a different name. Time the public starts instilling some fear into the hearts of these corporations. No more free rides at the working classes expense.

Vance always looks confused and frightened.

Time to strike the fear into the hearts of corporations again.

I hope everyone has added this to their file about Jeff Bezos

Amazon founder Jeff Bezos had Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell attend his private, invitation-only, weekend at a resort he rented out. Bezos also has numerous private dinners with Epstein. They were good friends.

Jeff Bezos hosted Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to his private, invitation-only, weekend at a resort he rented out. Bezos had many close ties to Epstein. Bezos also had numerous private dinners with Epstein.

The photo is from a party where Ghislaine Maxwell hobnobbed with him but make no mistake they were close friends.

Make sure to add this note to your files about Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon.

There are no rules!

That isn’t great when it cuts both ways. I’ll stick with fixed pricing and enforceable tenant protection laws. Rules are there for a reason.

Cool. Glad I’m on an opinion forum and not a member of a legislative body that makes laws that apply to everyone.

No, corporate owns most of the stores property then leases that to franchise owners. If one wanted to liquidate some of the property they owned and downsize operations they’d have to kick out the franchise owners first.

Having different prices for different meals isn’t dynamic pricing. We have menu’s because some food is more expensive than others. 2 eggs and some hash browns costs less then a hamburger with full dressings, fries and a soft drink.

Dynamic pricing is a form of prejudice that relies on a few additional data points but at its heart is no different than “hey this guy is skin color and is wearing clothing type so he must be loaded I’m going to tack on another $4 to his order!”

Now if that example above seems fine with you, change out the skin color and clothing type to something stereotypically negative and then tell me it’s not prejudice for someone to base a business transaction on those attributes (which the Supreme Court has in the past ruled is illegal to do.)

I don’t like vendors who think they can take advantage of me for a few extra bucks because of what they see (isn’t that a form of prejudice?)

Same with haggles at flea markets or garage sales. If you don’t label your prices I’m immediately not interested. I’m a demographic that looks “put together” and thus “wealthy” when in reality I’m basically broke and would file for bankruptcy if it’d clear my debt.

So when I come across a haggler (usually an old guy or a foreigner from a country that has a culture of haggling) I tend to avoid them because I don’t enjoy that process. Thats why America came up with price tags and fixed pricing for stuff. Way less hassle. Only idiots really savor the process of haggling. It sucks.

More reasons to not eat McDonalds. It sure seems like they are trying to shift from being a hamburger chain into full real estate company and are trying to sabotage their weaker franchises so they can cash out the properities PE style.