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Read the thread. Everyone defending the idea that LLMs can be conscious are spiraling off into theory of mind that isn’t actually relevant or applicable. One dude’s whole argument is based off his totally unproven assumption that consciousness is a property of the physical structure of brains which is both limited and misguided. There are no serious arguments here, just philosophizing.

Yeah, stupid tech-bro corpo marketing speech. It’s fuckin stupid.

Processing power, server capacity, all the dozens of terms used before AI techbro trash started misusing a verb because they were twigged on ketamine.

On pc you use third party software to stream, i use Apollo which is a fork of sunshine and Moonlight. As for PlayStation on the PS4 you just used the companion app, I can’t remember if you needed plus or not but I wouldn’t be surprised if you did. PS5 sells a whole peripheral for it but I think you can still use the app. Not sure, PS4 was hostile enough for me to abandon console gaming and return to pc where it’s better and cheaper.

I hate this new trend of corpo speak using compute as a noun. Ew.

They want to charge you for something that’s free on other platforms.

Isn’t this just free on both pc and playstation?

I’d like to know what evidence you have to support your position. I’m sure true artificial intelligence is theoretically possible but existing LLMs and other models cannot be that, not while maintaining a definition of intelligence that at all implies “like us” which is the only really useful definition.

So your whole position is based entirely on an assumption?

Says the AI bro. Seriously your comment history is public, your whole account just glazes AI.

Sapient, salient, sentient, self-aware. An LLM can’t be any of those things any more than an abacus can be. But I’m sure you’re just gonna devolve into philosophical rhetoric about nature of consciousness that still isn’t actually relevant but that will allow you to apply it to your misunderstanding of how LLMs function. This thread is apparently an AI bro brigade and I’m not interested in engaging with a bad faith group.

Intelligence does not derive from the material - at all. It comes from the structure the material is in.

Prove that please. There’s probably a Nobel at least in it for you if you can.

There is an argument for consciousness requiring biological processes, that being that the only examples of consciousness we’ve encountered involve biological processes and we have no evidence or reason to believe it’s not a hard a requirement. Like, non carbon based life could exist even though it’s very unlikely but we have no reason to seriously consider it because there’s no evidence of it. Similarly y’all are just wildly speculating without any evidence or impetus to cause the speculation. LLMs do not exhibit any intelligent behaviors. They don’t exhibit behaviors at all. They generate output based on input. They’re no more capable for consciousness than a calculator. As for the last point of yours we are in no way remotely capable of approximating a brain in either software or hardware, like not even close. Quantum computers might not be able to manage that.

Free will probably doesn’t exist but LLMs definitely aren’t in any way conscious, anyone thinking they could be have a fundamental misunderstanding of both LLMs and all the biological processes that make up consciousness. If LLMs are conscious so is an abacus.

It would not come remotely close to approximating our brains, in any way. This exhibits a lack of understanding of both LLMs and how our brains function.

Wait are you implying you think LLMs could be conscious? Fuckin hell we’re cooked.