• Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    That’s the real danger with LLM-AIs IMO, not the RAM price or energy consumption.

    Mass control.

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      18 hours ago

      I consider these overgrown chat bots to be the sequel to religion in order to control the masses. Outsourcing thinking to a “higher power” and wow would you look at that, it’s the same people pushing and inventing both of these systems! Same as it ever was.

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        13 hours ago

        Ugh yeah that seems to fit the bill. So I guess the inquisition is next up… Or you just starve if you don’t go full head into the(ir) system, I mean that is what they prepare potentially.

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      1 day ago

      The ram, energy, pollution, etc. is the real direct danger for everyone including those of use that avoid LLMs. The data collection is also a danger for the users, and only tangentally a danger for the rest of us.

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          1 day ago

          Yeah. I see this attitude on Lemmy a lot. In Linux circles in particular, but elsewhere too.

          No one is perfectly insulated from the rest of the world, as much as they’d like to think they are.

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            5 hours ago

            It’s part of a family of attitudes which include “I don’t care about Politics”, as if pretty much everything involving humans living in society wasn’t in some way or other shaped by politics.

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        24 hours ago

        The environmental abuses are pretty slim compared to hundreds of other human activities. People only got excited because they saw their bills go up in some cases. Golf courses for example use far more water. While estimates are all over the place they range from 2x to 5x to 40x, but in any case, fewer people are bitching.

        Meanwhile, we’re draining the Colorado river for alfalfa (24% of yearly water use) and export shitloads of it.

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          23 hours ago

          Fuck golf too though, wasteful af, kills local ecosystems, introduces excess fertilizers and pesticides. Makes land less affordable.

          And alfalfa used for livestock feed, obviously incedibly wasteful and destructive…

          Spot on for comparing to llms, all terrible 😅