The relevant section is blunt. “The Software is licensed to you, not sold,” the EULA states. “You are granted a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable, and personal license to play or use the Software for your private, non-commercial use on the system or device it was intended for.”

The terms also restrict renting, modifying, or obtaining games through unauthorised means. Nothing in there is new, technically. Sony’s EULA has always said this. The timing is what makes it land differently right now.

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    obtaining games through unauthorised means

    If games are going to have DRM, collect our data through unauthorized means, and be randomly taken away without our authorization, then exactly what social contract are we upholding?

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        It’s definitely stealing. I don’t understand why people on here can’t admit it to themselves.

        My guess is people here think that stealing is wrong, no matter what. They also think that piracy is moral. Because of that, they incorrectly deduce that piracy isn’t stealing.

        Look up any definition of stealing, and it always boils down to: taking something that you don’t have permission to take.

        No, this isn’t limited to physical items. Companies steal our data all the time.

        I think people need to shift from “Piracy isn’t stealing” to “Fuck the corps, they don’t wanna play fair I’ll steal their shit and they won’t see a penny”

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          It’s also stealing when companies take back the games without giving the money back to customers. And stealing when they are blocking legal backups with DRM.

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          It’s definitely stealing

          It’s definitely denying money to someone who is asking to be paid.

          But since they, nor anyone else is affected by the copying activity I don’t think it can be called stealing.

          How about

          “Fuck the corps, they don’t wanna play fair I’ll steal use their shit and they won’t see a penny”

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                That’s literally wrong. If I stole all your personal data from your laptop, you’d still have it.

                Companies steal trade secrets from each other all the time. That doesn’t mean the knowledge just leaves the other company.

                Stop making up definitions and just accept that it’s stealing. Just because it’s stealing doesn’t make it wrong.

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                  If you copied all my personal data from my laptop, I’d still have it.

                  If you stole it I wouldn’t.

                  Companies steal trade secrets from each other all the time.

                  If you copy a secret then it is no longer a secret, so something has changed for the original owner.

                  Stop making up definitions and just accept that it’s stealing.

                  You are the one changing the definition of stealing to try and apply it to piracy.

                  stealing /ˈstiːlɪŋ/ noun

                  the action or offence of taking another person’s property without permission or legal right and without intending to return it; theft.