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    Unless you specifically want 5GHz, a microwave with a disabled safety interlock is way better than any router.

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    Imagine for a second that this is real and substantiated - if your neighbour could feel it, you’re going to be fried alive. It would probably be several thousand times above the regulations (and it would probably cost way more than $250).

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      nah, one can microwave people from a distance with a properly shaped antenna with minimal damage to themself

      upd: it’s probably illegal and kinda mean, so don’t

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    If I encountered someone like this I would 100 percent start hoarding radio equipment and start to build a Monolith antenna from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. lots of lights not a whole let else.

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    Easy.

    If you want to annoy them, tell them you have the most powerful wifi router in existence, exceeding legal emission limits.

    If you want to “play nice”, tell them you set your wifi to minimum (or even disabled it if you want).

    The upside is that you don’t have to actually do anything for either to work.

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      Tell them that you’re a wifi based life form, you need constant exposure to electromagnetic waves for your organs to work. Turning off your wifi would mean you and your family would instantly die.

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    Wi-Fi Sickness? Bruh, where on this planet are you not going to be surrounded by it? There’s satellite linked internet projecting Wi-Fi to rural areas as we type.

    You can go to the tallest mountain on this planet away from everything and you might just be giving yourself a better signal to Starlink.

    Wi-Fi Sickness I looked it up, it’s mostly idiopathic and it’s not a scientifically valid sickness. It’s oddly enough more attributed to negative expectations and thinking that Wi-Fi is more harmful than it is and can give the brain a preconceived notion, that messes with perception of danger and that can cause anxiety WHICH causes the feeling of feeling sick.

    So basically, it’s not real and the person needs therapy and the person giving in to the paranoid/anxious delusion of Wi-Fi sickness should put their parenting pride aside and take them to a therapist.

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      Where i usef to work was a sizable grocery store and i would often go and get my lunch from there. It was also home of a pretty weird cult like religious group. They weren’t super popular because tgey would always buy bulk groceries to rush hour times and never wated their things “lasered” so, scanned. This is dumb enough when you think about it for more than a second, but they have enough time to think about the fact that their things don’t just get “lasered” by the cashier.

      Another thing i whitenessed once was when they set up a new mobile phone antenna where i live. A lot of old people complained about it the moment construction started. When the date came around where they turned it on, i woke up and my signal was still shit. A lot of people wrote angry letters that they now have migraines because of the antenna and the mobile company responded basically with: well that sucks to hear, but because of technical difficulties, we had to push the date up another month, but we hope your migraine gets better.

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        The thing with bar codes is that some people think they are the mark of the beast. It was a lot more popular when they were new technology

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        There’s a 5G antenna on top of a grocery mart and there’s one at the top of a trail. The one at the top of the trail used to be a trail frequented by elderly people going on health walks and walking their dogs. I hardly see any elderly people on that trail, people walk their dogs and take their kids up there but the elderly people aren’t going up there anymore.

        That one if you go near it because you can walk right up to it, it does make your head ring and there’s even a sign that warns people about the high frequency, so there’s something to it because I mean I can’t sit in my living room on humid days because the signal from my router screeches to me and my fiance can’t hear it. I’ve gotten nauseated before from signals, it’s just not scientifically valid.

        I can understand it but I can’t approve of the actual scientific notion that it’s real because on those days, if I just relax it goes away.

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          So while there is a risk associated with resting your nuts directly on certain very high power radio transmitters, the noise and nausea are something different. Without getting pedantic, electricity and magnesium basically cause each other and sometimes it lines up with resonant frequencies in a device and cause it to physically vibrate in an audible way. This is why electronic devices with no moving parts can hum. This leads into how some sound can mess with people, sometimes even when they can’t hear it (infra sounds from data centers and such). I have experienced this too, most memorably when I went to a restaurant with my then girlfriend and her family. One of the tvs was whistling really loudly but at a pitch so high nobody else could hear it. She and I could clearly hear dog whistles and she was practically crying by the time we convinced her dad to go to a different place. I felt like there was an ice pick getting screwed into my head. People associate the device with the discomfort and don’t recognize the actual mechanism behind it.

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            So while there is a risk associated with resting your nuts directly on certain very high power radio transmitters,

            Immediately made me think of the dumbass who touched the wire at a high voltage power plant.

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      What’s funny is that if you look up “radio sickness” there’s nothing. DDG literally returns nothing. They couch their beliefs in terms associated with modern tech. It’s not 5,000,000hz radio waves, it’s 5G Wifi!

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        They just have such a refined radio palate that they can tell the difference between natural background solar and cosmic radiation versus the paltry radiation from an artificial source

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      Or stepping outside and being bombarded by all the signals out there. The sun being one of them.

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      Naming them can also have big effects on the illness. Satan’s private porn wifi 5ghz Jesus private onlyfans wifi 2ghz

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        Necronomiconnect always gets a cackle from me.

        But you can be a bastard.
        Drone_Station_47
        Remote_audio_capture
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        PALANTIR-666

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    It’s not about the wifi, it’s the perception of wifi.

    These people get upset when they think there’s wifi, actual wifi is irrelevant. You can gut a router and fit the case with an AA battery and an LED and they’ll have ‘symptoms’ if they see it.

    Set up an access point to broadcast dozens of SSIDs so they see tons of wifi when they open the wifi screen on their phones.

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      My aunt used to get these terrible itches and headaches when she visits us, untill I turn off the wifi.

      Some minor experimenting has lead me to a breakthrough though. I found she’s not allergic to wifi, but to green indicator LEDs. Ever since I disabled the LED, her problems have been solved!

      My husband won’t let me tell her though. Something about “live and let live”.

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      Yup, this is the way. Get a cheap ESP32 or something and put several hundred SSIDs on it. There is no way they are looking at the spectrum itself.

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      I think that’s true, and that’s why this person should put a fake 5G mast on the roof facing the new neighbour.

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        Put an old colander in the window pointed at their house. It doesn’t need to be radio-related at all, imaginary allergies can be triggered by imaginary allergens.

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    You don’t use wifi cause you believe it gives you wifi cancer.
    I don’t use wifi cause a $6 ethernet cable gives me faster and more dependable internet.
    We are definitely not the same.

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      I hate people like this because their son could really be sick with something, but they’ve decided it is the WiFi and they aren’t getting him the care he needs. Woowoo people I swear.

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      Maybe just in the child’s room then, also you might want to ground that Faraday cage if they have anything that could be transmitting WiFi or Bluetooth or even is just a large screen.

      Also it needs to be a fine mesh because for blocking 5GHz WiFi you want the hole size to be a 1/20 of the wavelength which comes out to >4mm.

      Or an even cheaper solution would be to get one of those large “pet” cages and run a wire straight into the earth hole of a power socket.

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        You theoretically don’t “need” to ground a faraday cage if you want to block RF. I would do it anyway though.

        You’re kinda right about the wavelength thing, but tinfoil would absolutely take care of it.

        Two layers if you’re cautious. Separated by some thin non conductive layer, except connected at one point. To the better faraday cage.

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        This is actually really nice.

        Even if human rf sensitivity were real, tin foil would work.

        You’re sharing actual faraday cage material.

        Real EE stuff. Probably better than the cage material that I know that lines MRI rooms.

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        They’ve been tested (in tongue and cheek). Most tin foil hat designs actually increase peak exposure levels in the brain. In order to reduce it, they need to be closer to a motorcycle helmet, along with mesh visor.

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        Except if you just make a hat it could end up being a shitty ‘parabolic’ dish and concentrate the Wi-Fi in how head.

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    Ask them what bandwidth range they claim he’s sensitive to. Show them the level of background electromagnetic energy there is in that range anywhere on Earth by default, if they can even provide an answer to that. Suggest they should leave Earth.

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      Suggest they should leave Earth.

      If I knew of a way off this rock, do you think I’d let them enjoy it LMAO

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          Realistically, it’s technically sideways. To reach orbit you need to go sideways, not up. Theoretically you could escape Earth’s gravity influence by going straight away from it, but it’s not the realistic way that works.

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            Actually, you go up. The earth rotates beneath you, turning your up into sideways.
            E: then of course you have to turn east

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              No, not really. The velocity needed for low Earth or it is 7.8 km/s. The speed of rotation on the surface of earth is 0.46 km/s. You need to go sideways a lot more than you need to go up. You do need to go up some, but it’s pretty minor in comparison. Watch a rocket launch. They go up at the start, but start burning toward the horizon pretty quickly.

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                It’s a major enough speed boost that it’s cheaper to launch rockets from the equator than anywhere on the European mainland.

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                  Yeah, 1/16th isn’t nothing. However, the point is you’re mostly accelerating sideways, not up. If that were a significant part of the launch then we’d launch from mountains, but we almost always launch from the lowest points possible, at sea level.

                  Yes, the Earth is rotating, but most of your orbital velocity is added during the launch. The altitude is pretty minor. It’s why very few rockets have been launched from planes, that can give a significant portion of the altitude with very little cost. Altitude is just a small enough portion of the launch that the extra complications don’t give it an edge.

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              Technically a spiral because you start with orbital momentum just from standing still on the surface of earth when starting. You’d have to intentionally offset that to go straight but that’s not the most efficient way

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      > set up magnetron and aim it at their house
      > go to sleep
      > wake up to police and ambulance lights
      > kid died
      > oh shit

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        Yeah, do not microwave the neighbours.

        You can actually hurt someone with microwave-level RF, as in, cause permanent damage and fry someone’s retinas quite easily, so don’t unless you know what you are doing.

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            Not a doctor, just an engineer, but retinas do not have much blood flow. So no “water cooling” like most other body parts. Also, once they’re gone, they’re gone for life iirc, so it is a tragic combination of poor heat transfer and being non replacable.

            Common safety advice with high power microwave is to not look into cables or directional antennas just in case. Getting your hand burned is a lot better than your eyes cooked. Don’t stick your hand into a microwave because I said that.

            Also, don’t take apart a microwave without knowing what you do. There are a few 1000s of Volt with enough Amps to (quite literally) cook you in there, plus a HV capacitor to smooth it out that could [1] be charged even after you unplugged it and could severely hurt you.

            To quote the old warning: Not only will this kill you, it will also hurt the whole way.

            [1]: which should have a discharge resistor, but do you want to gamble your life on it still working?

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    Everyone knows WiFi routers generate phlogiston which unbalances the 4 humors and causes brain clouds.

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      Stop your bullshit fear mongering. We all know phlogiston is perfectly safe. The real problem is that 5g draws in miasma from local cemeteries.

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        You might want to be careful calling people out like that: it’s not solved science.

        I can remember people confidently arguing (and citing sources) that phlogiston is the problem and the miasma theory is quackery. Seems like every year we learn something new and it goes back and forth. “Are eggs healthy or not?”, “Do crystals work via homeopathy or latent energies?”, “Lizard people or greys?” etc.

        Personally, I sidestep the issue and avoid both. I stick to things that have been settled as being healthy: like drinking massive quanties of colloidal silver.

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        This is why it’s not economical to keep burying the dead in large fields like graveyards. All the pastureized miasma is not healthy! We need raw miasma like in the French catacombs. Why do you think they saw a renaissance?

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        I’ve been saying this for years. A properly balanced body should contain equal parts blood, phlegm, yellow bile, and cemetery dust. Anything else is a nutritional deficiency.

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    A few years back got some new neighbors. This is in rural TX, everybody has at least one acre of land. There is plenty of room to just fuck off and mind their own business.

    Anyway, new neighbor comes over and demands I quit using my smoker because it bothers his wife. We laugh him off the property lol.

    He calls the cops throwing a fit and eventually got his dumbass arrested for disorderly conduct.

    They moved away shortly thereafter, we still laugh about it around the neighborhood.

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      @[email protected] I don’t know what a smoker is, but I presume it… gives off smoke?

      If said wife is asthmatic I can imagine how it could bother her. Smoke does seriously affect people with lung diseases.

      Of course, that doesn’t give anyone the right to demand anything. But it may help understand where they’re coming from 🤷

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        (1) 1 acre is 4,047m^2. If it were a perfect square it would have a edge length of 64m (209ft). This means that the houses are separated by about that distance.

        (2) Asking a Texan to not smoke meat on their own property will get you laughted at regardless of context. Texas.

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        It’s for smoking meat, but it does not put off an objectionable amount of smoke. There was no mention of asthma, (wouldn’t have made any difference mind you) I think they were just ridiculously entitled 🤣

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          It probably smelled too good and was making them hungry lmfao, but if it were me I would have said “Can I throw a couple bucks at you and have you smoke some extra for me next time you do this?”

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            Hell yeah, I will happily cook any meat people bring me lol. You ain’t gotta pay me, just let me quality test a few bites 🤣

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              Is it? To be clear I’m american and Ive been around smokers a lot, so yeah maybe but also I feel like I can approach this with some personally lived life experience? They do put out some smoke but if you’ve ever had a bonfire- is that also an american thing??? I know smores are an american thing (youre missing out.) anyways it’s less smoke than a bonfire.

              Part of what a smoker does is keep the smoke contained so the meat has time to absorb the smoke flavor.

              It does however let some smoke out since it needs airflow, it makes the whole area smell amazing and lasts hours and hours.

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        Some people have smokers even in suburban homes. These guys had an acre of land between them. There’s no way a smoker would have produced enough smoke to bother her, especially if she just stayed inside.

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      You’re not a real network! “Family of Wireless Network Protocols”, for Christ’s sake? An unwired connection? What a joke! I worked my ass off to ping where I am! And you take these shortcuts and you think suddenly you’re my peer-connection? You do what I do because you’re convenient and you can make people laugh on their phone? I committed my WAN port to this! You don’t slide into it like a cheap router and then reap all the rewards!